Value of Gors & Kallmann upright serial # 60631
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Value of Gors & Kallmann upright serial # 60631
I have a Gors & Kallmann upright piano with serial #60631 (which tells me it was built 1921 - 1930). The condition of the piano is very good. Can anyone tell me the approximate value of this piano? Everything is in good working order. It just needs tuning. I have some photos of the in and outside of the piano if they would help.
Thanks, Claire.
Thanks, Claire.
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Re: Value of Gors & Kallmann upright serial # 60631
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Re: Value of Gors & Kallmann upright serial # 60631
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Hi Claire,
Thanks for the photos. Do have any idea how you want to sell the piano? this will depend on how quickly you want to sell it. Either:
1. Sell privately
2. Auction (eg eBay).... or
3. Sell to the trade
The serial number suggests 1921-1922 (not 1930 ish).... so you are looking at a 90 year old piano. Although it looks OK, the casework & general appearance is very out-dated and there seems to have been alot of sunlight on the piano? hence the fallboard (inside with name on) is much darker.... or is the flash photography?
When you say.... "It just needs tuning".... this always makes me sceptical & any prospective buyer. The overall value of a piano pretty much hinges on its tone quality, regular tuning visits (every 6 months).... and the main thing, is the overall tightness (torque) of the tuning pins.... photos cannot show this, only an expert piano tuner can detect this. If you are expecting a reasonable price for it, and to be sold privately (say), you need to pay a tuner to come out and tune it - regardless of it needing to be tuned again after delivery. It will sell better, and you can show any pros. buyer a valid recent receipt.
If you were to buy a car .... looking in good condition, then say, "Engine needs tuning" .... what would you think? would you buy it? An old vintage car with a spluttering/ coughing/ hit n miss engine will not sell very well!!
Have a look on eBay to get an idea of prices, but we can't give a value here on this forum.
Mark Goodwin may be able to give you some very rough prices, but this may reflect on the overall tuning stability.... when was the piano last tuned? is the piano at concert pitch? you may be asked allsorts of questions like this.
Hope that helps
Colin Nicholson
Thanks for the photos. Do have any idea how you want to sell the piano? this will depend on how quickly you want to sell it. Either:
1. Sell privately
2. Auction (eg eBay).... or
3. Sell to the trade
The serial number suggests 1921-1922 (not 1930 ish).... so you are looking at a 90 year old piano. Although it looks OK, the casework & general appearance is very out-dated and there seems to have been alot of sunlight on the piano? hence the fallboard (inside with name on) is much darker.... or is the flash photography?
When you say.... "It just needs tuning".... this always makes me sceptical & any prospective buyer. The overall value of a piano pretty much hinges on its tone quality, regular tuning visits (every 6 months).... and the main thing, is the overall tightness (torque) of the tuning pins.... photos cannot show this, only an expert piano tuner can detect this. If you are expecting a reasonable price for it, and to be sold privately (say), you need to pay a tuner to come out and tune it - regardless of it needing to be tuned again after delivery. It will sell better, and you can show any pros. buyer a valid recent receipt.
If you were to buy a car .... looking in good condition, then say, "Engine needs tuning" .... what would you think? would you buy it? An old vintage car with a spluttering/ coughing/ hit n miss engine will not sell very well!!
Have a look on eBay to get an idea of prices, but we can't give a value here on this forum.
Mark Goodwin may be able to give you some very rough prices, but this may reflect on the overall tuning stability.... when was the piano last tuned? is the piano at concert pitch? you may be asked allsorts of questions like this.
Hope that helps
Colin Nicholson
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Re: Value of Gors & Kallmann upright serial # 60631
Thanks for the info Colin. I will probably be selling privately or to the trade.
I intend to get a professional piano tuner to come and tune and do whatever is needed to bring the piano to concert pitch. The last tuner who did this for me in Israel, told me that the piano could be brought to concert pitch. What I am trying to establish is the approximate worth of the piano, as that will determine how much money it is worth spending getting it up to concert pitch. Like with selling an old car - do you spend the money to safety it before selling or do you sell it as is and take a drop in price? I guess a professional tuner and restorer would be able to tell me that. Thanks again. Claire.
I intend to get a professional piano tuner to come and tune and do whatever is needed to bring the piano to concert pitch. The last tuner who did this for me in Israel, told me that the piano could be brought to concert pitch. What I am trying to establish is the approximate worth of the piano, as that will determine how much money it is worth spending getting it up to concert pitch. Like with selling an old car - do you spend the money to safety it before selling or do you sell it as is and take a drop in price? I guess a professional tuner and restorer would be able to tell me that. Thanks again. Claire.
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