Offenbach

[hillberry]

I am looking for a second hand baby grand piano I have a budget of around 2,000
i would like a Kawai but may be to exspensive what make would you
say was simmlar but at a lower cost, i have looked at (offenbach)


Thank you G Battle

[Bill Kibby]

This is a piano history forum, you'll get better response if you ask on the other piano forum.

[PianoGuy]

I am looking for a second hand baby grand piano I have a budget of around 2,000

You really are asking for trouble at that price.

The absolute cheapest new baby grand pianos that I would consider worthy of the name start at around 3.5 to 4k.

These are Chinese, and are just about OK, and offer excellent value for money, but remember that as little time as 15 years ago, the people who make these pianos today were making Pearl River Bridge Soy Sauce, the only industry in the area. Chinese pianos before this era were rehashes of appalling Russian designs made from matchwood and pig iron left over from tank construction. Both armoured and water varieties. Luckily we were spared them in the West.

Learning how to build pianos has been a vertical learning curve for an essentially agrarian population, and a 15 year old Chinese piano will be absolute rubbish compared with a new one, so don't buy secondhand even if it's described as 'nearly new'.

2k buys you a very decent new Yamaha upright, so I'd buy one of those if I were you, or maybe one of the very decent new Chinese pianos about which you can read on this forum.

Offenbach was a brand name once owned by Daewoo, and pianos thus branded are mostly Korean. Later Offenbachs are Indonesian and not as good as the Korean ones. Look for the Daewoo trademark on a little sticker on the front, or moulded onto the frame inside the piano. It's elliptical with what looks like a fountain pattern. If it's not on there it's Indonesian.