DIY pitch raise by a semitone - good idea?
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DIY pitch raise by a semitone - good idea?
Post by hessodreamy »
I've got an old german upright, probably 100+ years old. It's about a semitone flat and I'd prefer it to be at concert pitch.
I understand that tuning can settle after such a large adjustment and as such it's beyond the scope of a normal tuning session, but is it feasible to do it myself?
I could gradually bring the whole piano up to pitch over a couple of weeks, continually adjusting until it's about right. Then I could get a pro in to fine tune.
Would this work? Would it harm the piano?
I understand that tuning can settle after such a large adjustment and as such it's beyond the scope of a normal tuning session, but is it feasible to do it myself?
I could gradually bring the whole piano up to pitch over a couple of weeks, continually adjusting until it's about right. Then I could get a pro in to fine tune.
Would this work? Would it harm the piano?
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Re: DIY pitch raise by a semitone - good idea?
Post by Colin Nicholson »
No one can tell you here if a DIY tuning will harm your piano, or if it will work.... it depends on the condition, stability and structure/ torque of the tuning pins, soundboard, bridges and wrest plank - hence a piano tuner is specially trained to assess these situations prior to a pitch change, and even a standard tuning. However, if the piano has little value - there's nothing wrong with having a go.... the worst that can happen is the odd broken string.
I assessed an upright piano last weekend for various repairs/ refurbishment etc.... and the quote I submitted was probably twice the normal cost.... why? .... because of bodged DIY jobs I would have to undo first.... like >>
1. Replacing strings (wrong gauges)
2. Using Bostik impact adhesive for bridle tapes/ ivory heads etc
3. Wedged & glued-in cocktail sticks for various damper springs (and gauge all wrong!)
So the moral is.... if you have a go yourself, then book a tuner - it won't be a fine tuning visit, and after you have paid the call-out fee, they may still walk away....
A pitch raise (if safe to do) should be carried out very quickly for structural reasons, taking no more than 30 minutes to do.... then done again quickly - about 30 minutes again, then left a few days to go flat, then pre-tuned....
Although you might think it may save you a few quid to DIY the pitch raise, in the long run, I would recommend you contact an expert to do the job from start to finish.... then you will save some money
hope that helps
Colin
I assessed an upright piano last weekend for various repairs/ refurbishment etc.... and the quote I submitted was probably twice the normal cost.... why? .... because of bodged DIY jobs I would have to undo first.... like >>
1. Replacing strings (wrong gauges)
2. Using Bostik impact adhesive for bridle tapes/ ivory heads etc
3. Wedged & glued-in cocktail sticks for various damper springs (and gauge all wrong!)
So the moral is.... if you have a go yourself, then book a tuner - it won't be a fine tuning visit, and after you have paid the call-out fee, they may still walk away....
A pitch raise (if safe to do) should be carried out very quickly for structural reasons, taking no more than 30 minutes to do.... then done again quickly - about 30 minutes again, then left a few days to go flat, then pre-tuned....
Although you might think it may save you a few quid to DIY the pitch raise, in the long run, I would recommend you contact an expert to do the job from start to finish.... then you will save some money
hope that helps
Colin
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Re: DIY pitch raise by a semitone - good idea?
Post by Gill the Piano »
Also, depending on the age of the piano, it may never have been intended to be at A440 (concert pitch ) in the first place as concert pitch has varied enormously from age to age and from country to country.
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Re: DIY pitch raise by a semitone - good idea?
Post by Barrie Heaton »
Doing bit by bit is the worst way of doing ithessodreamy wrote:I'v
I could gradually bring the whole piano up to pitch over a couple of weeks, continually adjusting until it's about right. Then I could get a pro in to fine tune.
Would this work? Would it harm the piano?
up in one go is the best
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