Kirkman & Sons of London Piano

[helpread26]

I am trying to determine what year my upright piano was made. It is a Kirkman & Sons of London. The address "3 Soho, London" is on the inside along with the # 39967. There is also a Crane and Sons warehouse address and number.

[Bill Kibby]

As you can read at
http://pianogen.org/numbers.html
the numbers for Kirkman pianos became very strange when they were taken over by Collard & Collard. It is impossible to tell the 1890s from the 1920s, and the published information is wrong! The same page contains information about C&S numbers.

There may be a date-mark inside the piano, see
http://pianogen.org/datemarks.html

If you could post photos of the whole piano here, or email them to me to post, I may be able to assess the age more accurately.

[helpread26]

So sorry, I have tried to attach pictures of the piano, but I keep being informed that the image is invalid. Is there an email address I can send them to?
Thank you.

[Bill Kibby]

I did answer your email but your system is blocking it as spam. My email address is below, but you will have to tell your system to accept the emails from me.

Alternatively, the images you tried to post are probably too big, do you know how to reduce them to 25% before you post them?

[helpread26]

I have reduced them. Let's see if this works.

[helpread26]

I emailed the pictures. Please let me know if you have a problem viewing them.

[Bill Kibby]

Thanks, this is one of those occasions when the published information is about right. I estimated the piano around 1889, so the published date 1887 is probably correct. In spite of the fact that it is Victorian, and not Edwardian, information about this type of piano can be found at
http://pianogen.org/edwardian.html

[helpread26]

Bill, thank you so much. You are amazing!