My Brodmann, Mozart

[joseph]

For those of you wondering what my piano sounds like, (let's face it you probably weren't),

this is me practising Mozart earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KguJAzaz8ns

[joe]

Hi,have you had the work done ?.

[NewAge]

Hi,have you had the work done ?.

Are you talking here about a good thorough prep, or referring to a particular issue?

[Barrie Heaton]

For those of you wondering what my piano sounds like, (let's face it you probably weren't),

this is me practising Mozart earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KguJAzaz8ns

What microphone were you using and was it a digital recording as the treble comes across very harsh and uneven in tone

Barrie

[joseph]

It was just the microphone on the camcorder, which has a bit too much mid-treble range. I haven't had any work done yet other than having the springs lubricated. The centering is OK now that the humidity has gone down. I still haven't had the regulation done either (have to wait til I get more pupils!) so it is playing quite unevenly, and the tuning in the treble is still settling.

The strings have started to go a bit in the treble, I think I've had 2 or 3 break in the past year - 2 during tuning and 1 during playing, but then, I hammer it a bit, especially when I'm learning fingering and doing that heavy repetitive practice.

I'm not sure it will ever sound refined without some major work. I play the same piece on something like a Yamaha C3XA or a new Steinway and the difference is amazing - it actually sounds the same way as I hear it in my head!

[joe]

For those of you wondering what my piano sounds like, (let's face it you probably weren't),

this is me practising Mozart earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KguJAzaz8ns

What microphone were you using and was it a digital recording as the treble comes across very harsh and uneven in tone

Barrie

Totally agree the treble tuning sounds all over the place for an instrument that has been as the OP as stated in previous threads well maintained by previous decent piano tuners,would not blame that on the move.

It was just the microphone on the camcorder, which has a bit too much mid-treble range. I haven't had any work done yet other than having the springs lubricated. The centering is OK now that the humidity has gone down. I still haven't had the regulation done either (have to wait til I get more pupils!) so it is playing quite unevenly, and the tuning in the treble is still settling.

The strings have started to go a bit in the treble, I think I've had 2 or 3 break in the past year - 2 during tuning and 1 during playing, but then, I hammer it a bit, especially when I'm learning fingering and doing that heavy repetitive practice.

I'm not sure it will ever sound refined without some major work. I play the same piece on something like a Yamaha C3XA or a new Steinway and the difference is amazing - it actually sounds the same way as I hear it in my head!

Shame,not a good advert for that brand,would try and trade in for a better grand if possible before the repairs outweigh the pianos worth,personally would never buy a piano which has had strings replaced,and weak springs etc,just has no quality no matter how cheap.The lesser brand take 5 years of Josephs excellent playing on a daily basis then they are for the Knackers yard

[Barrie Heaton]

It was just the microphone on the camcorder, which has a bit too much mid-treble range. I haven't had any work done yet other than having the springs lubricated. The centering is OK now that the humidity has gone down. I still haven't had the regulation done either (have to wait til I get more pupils!) so it is playing quite unevenly, and the tuning in the treble is still settling.

The strings have started to go a bit in the treble, I think I've had 2 or 3 break in the past year - 2 during tuning and 1 during playing, but then, I hammer it a bit, especially when I'm learning fingering and doing that heavy repetitive practice.

I'm not sure it will ever sound refined without some major work. I play the same piece on something like a Yamaha C3XA or a new Steinway and the difference is amazing - it actually sounds the same way as I hear it in my head!

Strings going is normal on a hard played piano S&S regularly replace top end strings on the concert pianos.

As to the hammers they will be compacted at the nose and will have minor groves rather than deep ones. A workaround to keep cost down world be Steam voicing will give you maybe 2 years more out of the piano. Go on to Youtube type in voicing technique for the high-use piano. It works well ,still need to use the needles as well, also some reshaping.

Barrie

[vernon]

Strings going on a modern piano? hmmm Something far wrong there.
I can't recall replacing a broken string IN YEARS from playing.

[joseph]

I thought string breakage was par for the course, but then, I went through conservatoires where the pianos were breaking all the time. Even new Steinways were suffering. Perhaps the capo isn't of great quality and has worn.

I don't know why the treble tuning is all over the place, because I haven't had a problem with it before - this is quite a new problem. Perhaps it wasn't knocked in right, perhaps the overall humidity here is just too much for it, perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about (always a possibility).

yeah, I'd like to trade in my piano for a Yamaha or a Kawai, or even better, but I haven't got the funds at all. It's completely out of the question at the moment.

Incidentally, joe, why would you never buy a piano with the strings replaced? Lots of pianos are restrung and then sold on, including pianos from your shop. What do you mean? Do you mean a partial restring? Do you mean that the piano might have a fault and that's why?

[joe]

Firstly,i am no longer the MD of the piano company i ran for over 20 years,retired 3 years ago.When buying a used piano if i see string replacements dotted all over the place,would never buy as the instrument is done from a tuning point of view,string breakages on new pianos,well the easy way out is to say its the players fault but more often than not its the poor design of the piano in question.Re-stringing,the only piano worth doing this too in my opinion is a Steinway grand,or another grand of quality of which there are very few,the costs outweigh the benefits,and no point doing that unless you are going to do a complete renovation of the action,case,keyboard etc.Steinway pianos which are used in Music schools and Academies are often partially restrung in sections every couple of years due to their high usage,which is fine because their build quality is far better than most when it comes to the construction of the piano.Would never buy a Japanese imported piano which had been restrung,the quality just not there,they are made to last 20 years no more.

[joe]

I thought string breakage was par for the course, but then, I went through conservatoires where the pianos were breaking all the time. Even new Steinways were suffering. Perhaps the capo isn't of great quality and has worn.

I don't know why the treble tuning is all over the place, because I haven't had a problem with it before - this is quite a new problem. Perhaps it wasn't knocked in right, perhaps the overall humidity here is just too much for it, perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about (always a possibility).

yeah, I'd like to trade in my piano for a Yamaha or a Kawai, or even better, but I haven't got the funds at all. It's completely out of the question at the moment.

Incidentally, joe, why would you never buy a piano with the strings replaced? Lots of pianos are restrung and then sold on, including pianos from your shop. What do you mean? Do you mean a partial restring? Do you mean that the piano might have a fault and that's why?

N.B only ever sold instruments that where fully restrung with 5 year warranty.

[joseph]

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought you meant. I know you're not MD of the company anymore, and I wasn't meaning to sound conflagratory, I was just confused.