R.Goetze

[goetze]

I have a R.Goetze piano from about 1920, anyone knows about it? It sounds good when tuned, but wish it could stay tuned longer... Anything i can do?

[Barrie Heaton]

Has the tuner indicated that the piano has loos tuning pins?
What sort of room is it in south facing?
Are there large swings in humidity?
How often do you have it tuned ?

Barrie,

[goetze]

Thanks for your answer
It is placed in the livingroom, and i believe the humidity is very low during winter, as we warm up the house with wood/ oven.
The tuner didnt say anything about it, but i wasnt there when she had it tuned.
The piano starts to go out of tune after a few weeks....
Will it help to put some water in a can inside the piano?

[Barrie Heaton]

Living rooms tend to swing quite a lot in temperature and humidity; wood stoves get rooms very hot, how close is your piano to the wood stove . This could be your problem water in the bottom may help but your piano may need a full control system which is not cheep

I would have a word with the tuner tell them that the piano is drifting out a tune in just a few weeks. They may tell you have got loosish tuning pins


Barrie,

[goetze]

Thanks again
What can i do if the pins are loose? Do they replace them with oversized ones, or are there other way to solve it? Especially one note i going out of tune very fast... Wish it was a trick with that one....

Last time, i tuned it myself, using PC and a tuning program. Well, red a thick book too before i started....
Could not notice any difference from when the professional tuner had it tuned, how long it stayed tuned afterwards.

[Barrie Heaton]

Thanks again
What can i do if the pins are loose? Do they replace them with oversized ones, or are there other way to solve it? Especially one note i going out of tune very fast... Wish it was a trick with that one....

Depending what part of the world you live in you have in order of cost

Restring with new pins (will cost more than say a Yamaha B1)
Just Repin (all depend on the quality of the string but cheaper than above)
Pintite (works well on pianos that have countersunk pinholes but can take a few applications )
CA glue ( works very well on pianos with bushings and even better pianos that have countersunk pinholes. Not wildly used in the UK and the fumes are bad for you)
Ponding the pin in (all depends on how much room is left from the coli to the plank best done with a pin taping tool to stops the string from dropping)

Last time, i tuned it myself, using PC and a tuning program. Well, red a thick book too before i started....
Could not notice any difference from when the professional tuner had it tuned, how long it stayed tuned afterwards.

Hmm that may be your problem novices tuners tend to turn the pin more un-stabling the pins and strings, even if the piano was up to pitch when your tuner tuned it, it can take a few tuning to restable the piano

But if you have one pin that is slipping sound like a loos pin problem

Barrie,

[goetze]

Depending what part of the world you live in you have in order of cost

Restring with new pins (will cost more than say a Yamaha B1)
Just Repin (all depend on the quality of the string but cheaper than above)
Pintite (works well on pianos that have countersunk pinholes but can take a few applications )
CA glue ( works very well on pianos with bushings and even better pianos that have countersunk pinholes. Not wildly used in the UK and the fumes are bad for you)
Ponding the pin in (all depends on how much room is left from the coli to the plank best done with a pin taping tool to stops the string from dropping)

Sorry, i dont know what CA glue is... Could you explain?
And ponding the pin? What is that

Sorry, but norwegian is my language

Hmm that may be your problem novices tuners tend to turn the pin more un-stabling the pins and strings, even if the piano was up to pitch when your tuner tuned it, it can take a few tuning to restable the piano

Well, the piano has been like that before i tried to tune it, and also when last owner had it. there is no difference that i can tell. I am very gentle when tuning, i know it is not a guitar!
I prefer tuning it myself, rather than playing it when it is out of tune, or cost a professional tuner every second month...

[goetze]

I forgot to say: The piano was restored in 1995,before last owner bought it, (did not change the pin-wood) and it is still just above 440hz...

[Barrie Heaton]

CA glue = Cyanoacrylate Glue or more commonly knows as Super Glue, it has very good compression properties and capillary properties used a lot in the USA.

Basically it creeps into the wood, the wood swells up and the glue sets; however, too much and you can’t turn the pin, so you have to tap it in a little, this will break the bond but the pin will remain firm. The piano ideally needs to be on its back, if you are doing all the pins and very good ventilation is needed. If you buy the 5g Locktie brand it has a long nozzle which is ideal for injecting a few drops into one pin - you must take care not to get it on the strings or the coil Single pins are best done from the top of the pin.

Barrie,

[Openwood]

God dag fra Stor Brittania, Christian!

Jeg er Englelsk, men etter min uttdaning i musikk paa universitet jeg jobbet some organisten i Tolga Kommune 1992-1994. Jeg huske ikke saa mye Norsk i dag men kankje du kan forstaar dette hilsen?

Jeg hadde det meget bra i Norge - for et vakket lande! Jeg haaper det gaa bra med derres piano.

'Ja, vi elsker detter landet, some det stigger frem' etc

[goetze]

Thanks to barrie!

Du har virkelig taket paa norsken, openwood! Det var ikke vanskelig aa forstaa.
Det er litt artig at det er saa mange britiske organister i norge.

Er egentlig godt fornoyd med pianoet, men haaper det kan holde stemmingen bedre.

[Barrie Heaton]

Thanks to barrie!

Din Wellcome

Barrie,

[kevenjoo]

Living rooms tend to swing quite a lot in temperature and humidity; wood stoves get rooms very hot, how close is your piano to the wood stove . This could be your problem water in the bottom may help but your piano may need a full control system which is not cheep

I would have a word with the tuner tell them that the piano is drifting out a tune in just a few weeks. They may tell you have got loosish tuning pins


Barrie,

I guess you should check your wood stove if it is in good condition. It has something to do also with your piano. Good luck to your repair session.

[triplezseoservices]

Humidity and Temperature play important part when your piano made from the Wood
This is some of the tips for Maintain the Piano
1) Clean Piano Keys
2) Clean The Soundboard
3) Clean the Cabinet

Also check this great article to maintain your Piano - http://www.playmusicsing.com/page/171268207