Advice please on moving & re-conditioning old piano
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Advice please on moving & re-conditioning old piano
Hello everyone,
I've just signed up to the board as I may be about to acquire a piano and would appreciate some advice from those in the know. About 30 years or so ago my late mother bought a piano for me to learn to play on. In my teens (to my eternal regret!) I abandoned the piano playing ...the usual sad tale. These days I have a resurgent interest in playing music having taken up the banjo and guitar.
Anyway, now that my stepfather is finally remarrying, he is suddenly willing to part with the piano. I don't think it has been played (or tuned) for many years. My brother reckons it needs a complete overhaul. Clearly this is a sentimental decision rather than a logical one (I'm sure it would be much more sensible economically to buy new/used!) but if possible I would like to keep the piano and do what work is required to bring it up to a reasonable standard. However, if it is going to be massively expensive to do so, I may not be able to justify this. Could anyone give any (very approximate) feedback on what a thorough overhaul might cost? I see that there is a section here for contacting trade professionals and I will have a look at calling some of these guys up.
My other question is this though: given that the piano is in Manchester (Didsbury area) and I am in West Yorkshire (near Huddersfield), what is the best way of managing this? Do tuners/technicians tend to operate within small local areas only? Do they also arrange piano moving? Should I engage someone in Manchester to come out and assess/advise but would it then be better to move the instrument before getting the work carried out? Or is an extensive overhaul likely to need to happen in a workshop environment? By the way, it's an upright piano with a name (can't quite remember what it is) that's a deliberate twist on the big famous makes - something like Bachstein? I will check. Not sure of its age but it was a second hand piano when my mum bought it in around 1978(?).
Apologies for my ignorance of these matters and for the lengthy post!
Thanks to anyone who can help with some feedback.
Maria
I've just signed up to the board as I may be about to acquire a piano and would appreciate some advice from those in the know. About 30 years or so ago my late mother bought a piano for me to learn to play on. In my teens (to my eternal regret!) I abandoned the piano playing ...the usual sad tale. These days I have a resurgent interest in playing music having taken up the banjo and guitar.
Anyway, now that my stepfather is finally remarrying, he is suddenly willing to part with the piano. I don't think it has been played (or tuned) for many years. My brother reckons it needs a complete overhaul. Clearly this is a sentimental decision rather than a logical one (I'm sure it would be much more sensible economically to buy new/used!) but if possible I would like to keep the piano and do what work is required to bring it up to a reasonable standard. However, if it is going to be massively expensive to do so, I may not be able to justify this. Could anyone give any (very approximate) feedback on what a thorough overhaul might cost? I see that there is a section here for contacting trade professionals and I will have a look at calling some of these guys up.
My other question is this though: given that the piano is in Manchester (Didsbury area) and I am in West Yorkshire (near Huddersfield), what is the best way of managing this? Do tuners/technicians tend to operate within small local areas only? Do they also arrange piano moving? Should I engage someone in Manchester to come out and assess/advise but would it then be better to move the instrument before getting the work carried out? Or is an extensive overhaul likely to need to happen in a workshop environment? By the way, it's an upright piano with a name (can't quite remember what it is) that's a deliberate twist on the big famous makes - something like Bachstein? I will check. Not sure of its age but it was a second hand piano when my mum bought it in around 1978(?).
Apologies for my ignorance of these matters and for the lengthy post!
Thanks to anyone who can help with some feedback.
Maria
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Re: Advice please on moving & re-conditioning old piano
Post by Gill the Piano »
Imagine you were talking about a car; 'not sure what make...or how old...or condition...but how much will it cost to restore it?' ! Any mechanic would want more info! You probably have a Steinbach made around the 1930s/40s, but there's no way of telling without seeing it.
It may not need restoration, just a few good tunings, it depends what you want from the piano. if you wanted to practise Rachmaninov on it, yes, it probably WOULD need restoration. If you just want to plunk away happily on it to no great standard, then it'll probably just want the tuning. Get a tech out to have a look at it and tune it up for you and go from there. Ring the closest one to you on this forum, and if you're outside their patch, ask them for a recommendation. Good luck!
It may not need restoration, just a few good tunings, it depends what you want from the piano. if you wanted to practise Rachmaninov on it, yes, it probably WOULD need restoration. If you just want to plunk away happily on it to no great standard, then it'll probably just want the tuning. Get a tech out to have a look at it and tune it up for you and go from there. Ring the closest one to you on this forum, and if you're outside their patch, ask them for a recommendation. Good luck!
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Re: Advice please on moving & re-conditioning old piano
Thanks for your advice Gill.
I appreciate your point...Perhaps I can scoot round there and get a couple of pics posted up. I just wanted a real ball park figure for what a restoration of a bog standard upright would be - low hundreds, high hundreds, etc...? Just trying to understand whether there is any point at all in trying to save the instrument. Plunking away is probably the sum total of my ambition - I had only reached Grade 3 when I packed in at age 13. ...and I have plenty on my plate already trying to learn banjo and guitar.
I'll try and get some more info. I appreciate that getting a tuner/tech out to visit is sensible but does anyone have any advice on the second part of my question, i.e. best order to do things as the piano is in M/c and I'm about 25 miles away in W/Yorks? Or is the number one starting point to get a tech/tuner person in the Manchester area out to give his/her advice?
Many thanks, sorry if I'm horribly naive about the issues involved.
I appreciate your point...Perhaps I can scoot round there and get a couple of pics posted up. I just wanted a real ball park figure for what a restoration of a bog standard upright would be - low hundreds, high hundreds, etc...? Just trying to understand whether there is any point at all in trying to save the instrument. Plunking away is probably the sum total of my ambition - I had only reached Grade 3 when I packed in at age 13. ...and I have plenty on my plate already trying to learn banjo and guitar.
I'll try and get some more info. I appreciate that getting a tuner/tech out to visit is sensible but does anyone have any advice on the second part of my question, i.e. best order to do things as the piano is in M/c and I'm about 25 miles away in W/Yorks? Or is the number one starting point to get a tech/tuner person in the Manchester area out to give his/her advice?
Many thanks, sorry if I'm horribly naive about the issues involved.
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Re: Advice please on moving & re-conditioning old piano
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What people have done before if the piano isn't local to them,is to arrange for a neighbour to let me (if the piano IS local to me) in to examine the piano and then I telephone the client with my opinion, then i send them a bill for the visit.
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Re: Advice please on moving & re-conditioning old piano
Post by Colin Nicholson »
Hi Maria,
Give me a shout if you want - I live in Bradford. I am a qualified piano tuner & tech./ restorer & can give you a free quotation.
No charge for call-out either if the piano is in Huddersfield - just 11 miles away.
Please reply on email for contact details.
Cheers
Colin Nicholson. Dip Mus. CMIT CLCM
aatuners@hotmail.com
Give me a shout if you want - I live in Bradford. I am a qualified piano tuner & tech./ restorer & can give you a free quotation.
No charge for call-out either if the piano is in Huddersfield - just 11 miles away.
Please reply on email for contact details.
Cheers
Colin Nicholson. Dip Mus. CMIT CLCM
aatuners@hotmail.com
AA Piano Tuners UK
Colin Nicholson Dip. Mus. CMIT CLCM PTLLS
Piano tuning & repairs. Full UK restoration service
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Colin Nicholson Dip. Mus. CMIT CLCM PTLLS
Piano tuning & repairs. Full UK restoration service
http://www.aatuners.com
Tuition ~ Accompaniment ~ Weddings
http://www.pianotime1964.com
Member of The Guild of Master Craftsmen
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