Yamaha Upright or Grand?
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Yamaha Upright or Grand?
I would like to thanks to this forum I can say what I feel.
Im just a beginner, and a little bit confusing which to buy, a grand or an upright?
Grand makes me happy but Uprights slightly make me happy because I think to myself that Uprights is lower class for me.
But I can do nothing because Im just beginner,
So anyone could suggest me what to buy? What Model? Etc. . .
Thanks
Im just a beginner, and a little bit confusing which to buy, a grand or an upright?
Grand makes me happy but Uprights slightly make me happy because I think to myself that Uprights is lower class for me.
But I can do nothing because Im just beginner,
So anyone could suggest me what to buy? What Model? Etc. . .
Thanks
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Many choose an upright over a grand because they take up far less space and generally (but not always) cost less.
As you are a beginner there is no certainty that you will keep playing for years even if you intend on having lessons. In that case I would suggest you consider renting a piano for a year with an option to purchase, and see how you progress. This is often wise when a child starts to learn too.
If very positive and after a certain period you wish to continue, then purchase the upright - if you are still pleased with that model. After that try playing many other pianos, better quality uprights and grands in order to get a good appreciation of the differences, and if your living space and your finances allow it, consider purchasing a grand.
Bear in mind that so often a good (122- 130cms) upright piano is superior in sound to a cheap baby grand, and should in no way be considered as ‘lower-class’.
I personaly have played many baby grands that just cannot compete with my upright. Also my choice of an upright was not financial but dictated by the available space in the living room.
I trust this may help, but other more informed specialists on this forum can probably advise further.
As you are a beginner there is no certainty that you will keep playing for years even if you intend on having lessons. In that case I would suggest you consider renting a piano for a year with an option to purchase, and see how you progress. This is often wise when a child starts to learn too.
If very positive and after a certain period you wish to continue, then purchase the upright - if you are still pleased with that model. After that try playing many other pianos, better quality uprights and grands in order to get a good appreciation of the differences, and if your living space and your finances allow it, consider purchasing a grand.
Bear in mind that so often a good (122- 130cms) upright piano is superior in sound to a cheap baby grand, and should in no way be considered as ‘lower-class’.
I personaly have played many baby grands that just cannot compete with my upright. Also my choice of an upright was not financial but dictated by the available space in the living room.
I trust this may help, but other more informed specialists on this forum can probably advise further.
I was playing the piano in a zoo, when the elephant burst into tears. I said, "Don't you recognize the tune?" He replied, "No, I recognize the ivories!"
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Some good advice there actually! If you are going to stick at it, and you want to buy a grand, buy a grand.
Baby grands are generally inferior to good uprights, but there are exceptions to this:
Bluthner have always made a top quality baby grand piano that plays like a dream.
Steinway model M and model S are two exceptional small pianos, and I'd pick one of them over a model K upright because of the grand action. Trying to get one at a reasonable price on the second hand market will be difficult tho!
Yamaha C1 is great, as is the Kawai RX1, but the models smaller than this aren't really so good.
Brodmann do a lovely baby grand, 5 feet 6 I think, and their 4 feet 11 grand is also fairly impressive.
If your option was to be a C3 or an SU7, I'd pick the C3. Other people on this forum are free to disagree with me!
It all depends what you are willing to spend, what space you have, and what you want the piano for. You may find an upright that you fall in love with. A Bechstein concert 8 or a Steinway K would be the uprights I chose if space were an object and money wasn't (unusual combination....)
Baby grands are generally inferior to good uprights, but there are exceptions to this:
Bluthner have always made a top quality baby grand piano that plays like a dream.
Steinway model M and model S are two exceptional small pianos, and I'd pick one of them over a model K upright because of the grand action. Trying to get one at a reasonable price on the second hand market will be difficult tho!
Yamaha C1 is great, as is the Kawai RX1, but the models smaller than this aren't really so good.
Brodmann do a lovely baby grand, 5 feet 6 I think, and their 4 feet 11 grand is also fairly impressive.
If your option was to be a C3 or an SU7, I'd pick the C3. Other people on this forum are free to disagree with me!
It all depends what you are willing to spend, what space you have, and what you want the piano for. You may find an upright that you fall in love with. A Bechstein concert 8 or a Steinway K would be the uprights I chose if space were an object and money wasn't (unusual combination....)
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Ok, thank you for the replies. . .
I therefore conclude that Uprights is better than baby grand for me.
So therefore, what Upright Model should I use"? (if possible, YAMAHA is what I want. .
Your Prompt Reply is highly appreciated.
I therefore conclude that Uprights is better than baby grand for me.
So therefore, what Upright Model should I use"? (if possible, YAMAHA is what I want. .
Your Prompt Reply is highly appreciated.
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
It's hard to add much to what Joseph's already said:Advice Please???
That's pretty much the bottom line. If you have enough cash to be thinking in terms of upright versus small grand you probably have enough cash to avoid the Yamaha B Series, which I suggest you do. I often have to play a YUS1 and I think it's a good piano; the higher up the series you go the better the action and tone will be (so long as you buy from a dealer who takes care over the instruments, of course). The best advice I can give you is to go try out as many pianos as you can, take your time and buy the piano you like the best.It all depends what you are willing to spend, what space you have, and what you want the piano for.
"Each day grow older, and learn something new."
Solon (c. 630 - c. 500 B.C.), Greek Statesman and Reformer
Solon (c. 630 - c. 500 B.C.), Greek Statesman and Reformer
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Grands have a much richer and, in short, pleasing tone. I have found grands more expressive than convention uprights. Personally, a grand piano is a big investment and it does take up considerable room. Because it is a big instrument, I'm assuming that you have a room that will be able to do justice to it's tone? Small room and big pianos don't really mix well - at all in fact!
The taller pianos like the YUS or the SU series can have comparable tones and action to some grands so don't rule out uprights completely. Of course, my previous comment depends also on WHICH grand piano you try!
The taller pianos like the YUS or the SU series can have comparable tones and action to some grands so don't rule out uprights completely. Of course, my previous comment depends also on WHICH grand piano you try!
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Thank you for the reply,
For me,
Space doesnt matter
but
Money
Quality of tone
does matter.
I am now focusing in Upright Pianos
because money does matter for me, we are also affected from global crisis, LOL.
So, like what I said, Im focused with an Upright Pianos but,
Im ignorant about it,
so, Im wondering what model of Yamaha Upright Pianos, or even not Yamaha if ever.
For me,
Space doesnt matter
but
Money
Quality of tone
does matter.
I am now focusing in Upright Pianos
because money does matter for me, we are also affected from global crisis, LOL.
So, like what I said, Im focused with an Upright Pianos but,
Im ignorant about it,
so, Im wondering what model of Yamaha Upright Pianos, or even not Yamaha if ever.
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
"Each day grow older, and learn something new."
Solon (c. 630 - c. 500 B.C.), Greek Statesman and Reformer
Solon (c. 630 - c. 500 B.C.), Greek Statesman and Reformer
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Ok sir, thank you for the info.
But, I can't decide with myself
I need thy advice.
Im really ignorant with this things, And I hope after buying I will not regret because of my own decision.
Please help me choosing nice one with U series. Or something
(Money and the Quality of Tone does MATTER)
But, I can't decide with myself
I need thy advice.
Im really ignorant with this things, And I hope after buying I will not regret because of my own decision.
Please help me choosing nice one with U series. Or something
(Money and the Quality of Tone does MATTER)
Re: Yamaha Upright or Grand?
Several people have already given you valid advise.
I note from your comments of “Your Prompt Reply please”, and your repeated requests for advise that you would appear to be in a hurry to buy an acoustic piano. BIG mistake!
There are some important rules which should be observed when starting the search for a piano. These can be summarized as follows:-
1. Take your time. Do NOT rush into a decision. Allow yourself many weeks or months of research.
2. Try as many DIFFERENT makes and models of pianos as possible. (This in itself should take weeks/months).
3. Let YOUR own eyes, ears and hands decide which is the best instrument for you.
4. If you have never played yourself, take along to the showrooms someone who can play. When they start to play various pianos, turn your back on the player, close your eyes and LISTEN carefully. After listening take notes about the sound, visual aspect of the instrument, and the make and model.
5. Ask for documentation on each piano which has been auditioned.
6. Study the documentation carefully over a period of time, together with additional details from manufacturers web site and different piano forums.
7. When your knowledge has increased, draw up a shortlist of say 2 or 3 favourite choices.
8. Return to the stores and try the same pianos again. And if possible even identical makes/models in different stores.
9. When you eventually find a piano you love, strike an acceptable deal.
10. Be careful with suggestions from other people. Someone who suggests say a Yamakai model 123 is the best thing going, may not necessarily be the best model for your budget, your eyes or ears. Make sure it is the piano make/model of YOUR choice.
The above is not intended to be an exhaustive checklist.
Do your homework well, to avoid being “ignorant with these things”, and make YOUR choice, and you shouldn’t be disappointed.
I trust this helps. Let us know what you finally decide on.
I note from your comments of “Your Prompt Reply please”, and your repeated requests for advise that you would appear to be in a hurry to buy an acoustic piano. BIG mistake!
There are some important rules which should be observed when starting the search for a piano. These can be summarized as follows:-
1. Take your time. Do NOT rush into a decision. Allow yourself many weeks or months of research.
2. Try as many DIFFERENT makes and models of pianos as possible. (This in itself should take weeks/months).
3. Let YOUR own eyes, ears and hands decide which is the best instrument for you.
4. If you have never played yourself, take along to the showrooms someone who can play. When they start to play various pianos, turn your back on the player, close your eyes and LISTEN carefully. After listening take notes about the sound, visual aspect of the instrument, and the make and model.
5. Ask for documentation on each piano which has been auditioned.
6. Study the documentation carefully over a period of time, together with additional details from manufacturers web site and different piano forums.
7. When your knowledge has increased, draw up a shortlist of say 2 or 3 favourite choices.
8. Return to the stores and try the same pianos again. And if possible even identical makes/models in different stores.
9. When you eventually find a piano you love, strike an acceptable deal.
10. Be careful with suggestions from other people. Someone who suggests say a Yamakai model 123 is the best thing going, may not necessarily be the best model for your budget, your eyes or ears. Make sure it is the piano make/model of YOUR choice.
The above is not intended to be an exhaustive checklist.
Do your homework well, to avoid being “ignorant with these things”, and make YOUR choice, and you shouldn’t be disappointed.
I trust this helps. Let us know what you finally decide on.
I was playing the piano in a zoo, when the elephant burst into tears. I said, "Don't you recognize the tune?" He replied, "No, I recognize the ivories!"
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