Unthinkable Steinway modification
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Unthinkable Steinway modification
I have been lurking on the forum for a bit and am grateful for the depth of experience to be found here. It's always interesting to read everyone's opinions on different pianos.
I am an ex-pianist, by which I mean, I studied piano very seriously about 40 years ago since when I have hardly played at all. I would like to get back into practice again and would therefore like to buy a good piano to practise on. Having been brought up on Steinway (and latterly Yamaha) grands, I still gravitate towards these makes. I like their tone quality and more importantly the action on both of them. Unfortunately, I have a next door neighbour who will not be pleased if I buy a piano and given the amount of time since I last really played properly I thought the answer might be to get a silent piano. I know that Yamaha make silent pianos and Disklaviers but I don't know if my budget would run to one of these. I believe, however, there is a system that can be fitted to any acoustic piano which will effectively give you the option of using it digitally and I could just about afford to fit one if I managed to find a reasonably priced piano.
I've just been told about the availability of a 1939 Steinway (which I haven't played yet so I don't know what condition it is in) at a price I could definitely afford. My dilemma is this: if the piano turns out to be a good one, would it be a travesty to modify it with a digital retrofit?
I am an ex-pianist, by which I mean, I studied piano very seriously about 40 years ago since when I have hardly played at all. I would like to get back into practice again and would therefore like to buy a good piano to practise on. Having been brought up on Steinway (and latterly Yamaha) grands, I still gravitate towards these makes. I like their tone quality and more importantly the action on both of them. Unfortunately, I have a next door neighbour who will not be pleased if I buy a piano and given the amount of time since I last really played properly I thought the answer might be to get a silent piano. I know that Yamaha make silent pianos and Disklaviers but I don't know if my budget would run to one of these. I believe, however, there is a system that can be fitted to any acoustic piano which will effectively give you the option of using it digitally and I could just about afford to fit one if I managed to find a reasonably priced piano.
I've just been told about the availability of a 1939 Steinway (which I haven't played yet so I don't know what condition it is in) at a price I could definitely afford. My dilemma is this: if the piano turns out to be a good one, would it be a travesty to modify it with a digital retrofit?
An Old Blanket or three placed over the strings would be alot cheaper than any sort of digital refit.
The other thing that would cost you nothing would be to say...."to hell with the neighbours!!!" and enjoy yourself.
The other thing that would cost you nothing would be to say...."to hell with the neighbours!!!" and enjoy yourself.
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Post by Barrie Heaton »
Retro fitting a silent system to grands is messy to do right you need to make major modifications to the grand action a factory fitted one is the best option for grands
Uprights that different retro fitting a silent system to an upright is a walk in the park compared to a grand
There are many things that you can do to a room to kill the sound and little items like acoustic dampening castor cups all help but if you can work with your neighbours and work out a timetable. Sadly musical interments are getting clobbered at the moment by EH in the UK for noise
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Uprights that different retro fitting a silent system to an upright is a walk in the park compared to a grand
There are many things that you can do to a room to kill the sound and little items like acoustic dampening castor cups all help but if you can work with your neighbours and work out a timetable. Sadly musical interments are getting clobbered at the moment by EH in the UK for noise
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Yes, I forgot to say that I was talking about grands.
Actually, even without the difficult neighbour I think I would like to have a silent system. I can't imagine the embarassment of having everyone passing by my house hearing me practise. I wouldn't mind so much once I could play well again, but all those hours of painful practising!
Actually, even without the difficult neighbour I think I would like to have a silent system. I can't imagine the embarassment of having everyone passing by my house hearing me practise. I wouldn't mind so much once I could play well again, but all those hours of painful practising!
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Then I would opt for a U3 silent or a C3 silent if funds permit
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Post by sussexpianos »
retrofit a steinway? are you mad?
There are acoustic kits in America for grands to silent them a bit. just google it.
I would not recommend fitting a silent system to a grand, like fitting cheap alloys to a Model T Ford.
I have only fitted silent systems to uprights. The setoff is adjusted so it will play differently. And you will have to get used to the thumping noise from the hammers hitting a bar.
There are acoustic kits in America for grands to silent them a bit. just google it.
I would not recommend fitting a silent system to a grand, like fitting cheap alloys to a Model T Ford.
I have only fitted silent systems to uprights. The setoff is adjusted so it will play differently. And you will have to get used to the thumping noise from the hammers hitting a bar.
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Post by Barrie Heaton »
Me na....! all the jacks would have to be changed and the new ones fitted with a second set of trip leavers for the second set of set off buttons you would need not cheepLicciana wrote:And if they don't?... Would you be horrified at the "rape" of a Steinway (turns out it's 1934 not 1939 as described above in case that makes a significant difference)?Barrie Heaton wrote:...if funds permit
This is your man he will do all the bits to convert a grand
www.gabor-pianos.co.uk/
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